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Bold Pivot| A Man’s Journey to High-Ticket Success

 

Now, the real risk, I think, isn't leaving your job.

 

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So welcome to our podcast.

 

Thank you so much, you two.

 

Thanks for having me.

 

It's a pleasure to be here.

 

So good to have you here.

 

We've really been looking forward to this conversation and obviously behind the scenes, we've had a lot of these types of conversations and we said we need to share this.

 

We need to share this with others because there's so many that are in exactly this type of situation or the situation you were in just a few months ago, right?

 

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I am so excited to hear from you firsthand about the journey you've went through, from really leaving that relentless corporate world, moving your whole family to a new country, and really embodying everything you've put your vision to and now being so courageous to live this life and be in this space, this wonderful space that have brought us all closer together of this high ticket affiliate marketing space as well.

 

So tell us the journey.

 

What did you go through?

 

What was in your mind when all of these changes happened?

 

What was in my mind?

 

Where to start?

 

First of all, thanks for this incredible intro.

 

Yeah, where to start?

 

I mean, I would think or I would say that I had a very successful career.

 

Over the years, I was in my career for almost 20 years and I was progressing and really moving up that so-called letter and earning well.

 

And I would say checking all the right boxes.

 

But with more time, things change.

 

Eventually, there's family, my wonderful wife, and then kids come into the play and all of that.

 

And yeah, as you go along at some stage, something just started to feel a little bit off.

 

And things of when you start to get into your career, success, and what comes with it, and moving on, and all of that, really started to shift.

 

And looking into what success really means.

 

At the beginning, it was maybe more about yeah, your career and making money and all of that.

 

But it started to shift, right?

 

And I felt like the more that I started to connect with myself as well, that there was just something missing, and that I was really on a treadmill.

 

I mean, I was working in sports for pretty much my whole life, in my career, and I felt like I was really on this treadmill.

 

High stress, always numbers, always getting more higher, higher, long hours.

 

And I just really started to feel into what really matters actually.

 

Yeah.

 

Was there a specific moment where you realized, wow, this is not the only way?

 

Or was it more something that came of it gradually?

 

I would say it came gradually.

 

And it just also came with, you know, the last years have been crazy, right?

 

Like all the changes, and you start to see how the corporate world works and how quickly things can shift and change, right?

 

And how people get replaced and all these things.

 

And you start to question, right?

 

And you start to maybe worry a little bit.

 

What does that mean for me potentially, right?

 

So I would say it was gradually.

 

It was gradually, yeah.

 

It's really interesting because I think, I feel a lot of people are there, but whether you take action on that feeling that pops up along the way or not is really, you know, that's a lot of courage because corporate jobs really provide a lot of stability, right?

 

But you also said at one point in a conversation that it can have the power to destroy you, right?

 

You did like that corporate job all those hours.

 

Can you expand a little bit on that?

 

Yeah.

 

I mean, what do I mean by that is just if you, the way that I explain that sometimes also when I, you know, when I do my coaching or the stuff I do in the corporate world now, as an external, is that we kind of have, not kind of, we do have two identities when we're in the corporate world, right?

 

And what that means is just, you know, you go to work, right?

 

You have that certain identity.

 

And then when you come out, there's this other identity of maybe now I'm the family father or, you know, whatever that looks like outside, right?

 

And why I think, you know, where this can destroy you, I think, is if, if you're not clear, right?

 

If you take that identity that you have when you're in your corporate life, and that is your identity, right?

 

But there's so much more to it.

 

But because people are so clear or they're so ingrained, not clear on, you know, it's my corporate world, that's what everything is around for many people, not everyone, right?

 

But for the people that sort of have that awakening, let's say that there is more, right?

 

Great.

 

But a lot of people don't.

 

And that's what I mean by, you know, it can destroy, sounds very strong, but it can really take out the potential of that human being that you are, that there is so much more than that corporate identity, if that makes sense.

 

And that's why I think it can just really destroy or crush you, right?

 

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Well, especially for most men, the conditioning is that you have to be the providers, and you have to be the one responsible for the financial security of the family.

 

So it is, in a way, for many men, I think it's having this weight on their shoulders of not only having to be the providers, but also dealing with what comes up, but not being able to share that with anyone else.

 

Like for us women, the space is a little bit bigger.

 

Like we are encouraged since very early on, to talk about our feelings, to be vulnerable with each other, to have this group of friends where we're not expecting solutions, but we're just sharing what is in our life, in our plate at any given moment in time.

 

And for a lot of men, I feel those spaces are very limited, if at all, right?

 

Many men are supposed to be quietly enduring whatever comes their way, but not having really an outlet to say, hey, I'm not doing great or I have all these fears or I don't know what's next for me.

 

And having to put this upper stiff lip, as they say, because it is frowned upon to talk about that and to show vulnerability.

 

So it also goes hand in hand with what you say with this identity that becomes your whole identity.

 

It's the work that you do becomes who you are.

 

And once that comes into question, then a lot of other things start to splinter off of that.

 

That creates a lot of, what do you say?

 

It's confusion or what do you say?

 

It's a bit of uncertainty about who is it that I am ultimately or what is it that I truly want?

 

Do you feel it's a combination of those?

 

I would think it's a combination of both, 100%.

 

It's true, there's so much I believe that you have to go through.

 

But what were the biggest fears or these limiting beliefs that you had and you had to overcome when you said and you made that very profound decision, I'm going to leave corporate life.

 

I'm going to start something new.

 

I'm going to find my true north.

 

I've tapped into myself.

 

I have the courage to do it.

 

But what were some fears and beliefs that came up for you?

 

I mean, definitely, am I made for the corporate shift now into entrepreneurial work or being your own boss and just starting your own business?

 

I mean, that was definitely a big one.

 

And I think one of the things as well is just, you know, you always have this approval, right?

 

Like, am I doing the right thing in my circles?

 

And I think especially for me being, you know, I was in sports all my life, right?

 

It's all extremely competitive.

 

And it's, you know, yes, it's all team and all of that, but people do look at each other a lot of what they do, what they achieve, and all of that, right?

 

So that was definitely, you know, one of the things as well.

 

Now that you go into something else, that potentially that approval, am I good enough for this, right?

 

But I mean, there's a few things probably, but I think at the end of the day, what I came to realize is that you just need to, you really need to shift your point of reference and reframe of the way that you look at it.

 

Right?

 

So, am I, you know, am I the right person for entrepreneurship?

 

I don't know 100 percent.

 

I'm jumping in and I'm leaning in.

 

But if I look into all the things that I've done, right?

 

I have a lot of experience in many things, say, you know, sales, say, you know, relationships, say, strategy, business development, like all these things that I've done, that actually I can take now and build something right in this new business.

 

It's just that when you jump in, it's pretty scary and you may not see it.

 

So for me, a lot of work right now is around reframing.

 

Because yes, there's a lot of problems, right?

 

And what you need to do is you need to shift and kind of see yourself be a bit delusional and see yourself already where you think you're going to be in three or five or 10 years.

 

So you really need to build that vision for yourself.

 

Like I've built these visions for companies for 20 years, right?

 

As part of my work.

 

Exactly.

 

You build what else you dream.

 

Exactly.

 

But now you have to sit down and say, hey, you know, what is that going to look for me?

 

And it's interesting work if you've never done that, right?

 

And it's very profound.

 

So definitely there's entrepreneurial ship, this kind of, you know, approval in a way of people, right?

 

And this is a lot of work that I also personally, you know, I would say still goes through right now, right?

 

Like you have to really let go of your ego.

 

You really and you know, that's something that we all have, right?

 

Like if you really truly connected to it all the time with everything, right?

 

Then this is not going to work, right?

 

But if you really start to learn to really connect with yourself, to really get away from outside validation, these things, yeah, then I think you're on the right path.

 

What I love about it, you know, just to finish, maybe also this question I could go on and on, is one of my key values is growth, right?

 

And I do believe that in the past 20 years, there was a lot of growth, but definitely now going into this, even though, yes, it might be scary, I know that, you know, there's going to be so much growth and learning.

 

And you just, you know, have to get that little creepy, you know, telling you, oh, this is not going to work or whatever, get that out of your head, right?

 

And that's daily work that you need to do bit by bit.

 

So the growth part is it's inevitable.

 

It's just that we I feel that we tend to view it as as we do it once and then that's it.

 

Yeah, right.

 

Or at least 100 percent.

 

And I think, you know, that that is well, right?

 

Like, I think I've always been a curious person, but I think now like this is like tenfold.

 

Because now everything is new, right?

 

Like I was in my bubble and it was all good.

 

And, you know, it was all kind of in that treadmill, sort of, right?

 

And now it's like everything is new.

 

How do I create that personal brand?

 

How do I go online?

 

Like, yes, we're all like, you know, connected and you're maybe on social media.

 

But how do you make these tools now work for you?

 

Right.

 

And yeah, it might be a bit scary in the beginning, right?

 

And showing up like all these things.

 

But yeah, I love it.

 

I wouldn't want to change it one bit.

 

Well, it is scary because you are getting rid of a version of you that no longer serves you for the stage that you're in.

 

And it is that ego that you speak about.

 

It doesn't want to go away.

 

Like, why do you want to destroy me type of feeling?

 

And it's going to fight, and it's going to really put on a big fight, and it's going to have all these compelling reasons why you shouldn't get rid of it and why you shouldn't move forward.

 

But as you say, it's having this eye on the bowl.

 

It's this, okay, what is this vision that I have for myself in two, three years?

 

Where is it that I want to be?

 

And to use that a little bit as the string or the rope that is going to connect the dots for you as you move ahead.

 

Even though there's a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of unknowns along the way, especially when it comes to entrepreneurship, right?

 

We don't have the roadmap as clearly defined as we would like it to be.

 

Yeah, correct.

 

What I love especially is that, and you mentioned that before as well, you now have the power.

 

First of all, you have true ownership of what you do, but you have the power to even take everything you've known before, everything over the many, many years that you've been working, the skills, the skillset, the talents, everything that you have, it's what you can now put into work for something that belongs 100% to you.

 

And I think that is one of the most powerful things because often we're so set in this traditional way of success.

 

I must be an employee of this company, and that's where the traditional, they're going to compensate and celebrate me, right?

 

But in the end, it never belongs to you.

 

It's so risky.

 

When people say the venture we go into is risky, no, you being an employee is risky.

 

You don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.

 

So now, you took that power back completely, and you are now applying all of that, all of these talents, all of what the companies wanted you for, for your own thing.

 

And I think that's absolutely just super empowering for yourself.

 

And you can kiss that ego goodbye, because you are on to much, much greater things that will happen.

 

Yeah.

 

And also the other thing maybe to mention there is, in the corporate world, everyone thinks, I mentioned that a little bit before, that's stability, right?

 

People think, oh, I have stability with a corporate job.

 

If you still believe that today, you are, I don't know if you're watching what's happening in the world in the last three, four years.

 

It is an absolute illusion that stability today, it's like the biggest trap there is.

 

Right?

 

And I am, look, I am not saying corporate is like, is the worst thing and corporate is corporate and it's okay for certain people, right?

 

But it is really the biggest trap for you to see what your full potential is, right?

 

Because everything is controlled.

 

Your time is controlled, your energy is controlled, your future is in a way controlled.

 

Like if you're not very conscious of who you are, and I think a lot of people are not, and I would consider for many years myself included in that, right?

 

I would think that, you know, it's, yeah, it's a big, big trap.

 

Totally.

 

It's an illusion, as you say.

 

And yeah, going back a little bit to what's happening in the world nowadays, even federal jobs, you know, people that work for government, they say, oh, the government prints money.

 

So they have, you know, they have all the money.

 

And if they don't have any more, they just print more and then it's all good.

 

But even to that effect, things are shifting quite drastically.

 

And so people are realizing it's not as stable or as solid as we once thought it was going to be.

 

The key thing just to finish that one really is, now the real risk, I think, isn't leaving your job.

 

The real risk is actually staying and waking up in 10 to 20 years with regret and realizing that actually the best time that you had, you gave that to someone else's vision.

 

I think that is the biggest thing.

 

And once that really hits, you really start to think.

 

And that doesn't matter on what level you are in a corporate job.

 

Well, I can attest to that because I can give a little bit of the perspective of things happening in parallel and just realizing how many weekends were like, oh, I have to travel and I have to come back on Sunday and I'm wasting a Saturday or it's my birthday or Mother's Day or whatever it was, whatever celebration it was.

 

And you think that you want to be mindful.

 

And I remember that you were always very responsible in that sense of saying, it's cheaper for the company to buy the ticket and return on this day rather than on this other day, or it's just better to stay this one extra night because then I can finish this and that and so forth.

 

And so we tend to have this education.

 

And I know in your case specifically, that was always playing in a very priority way to say, I want to be responsible.

 

I want to show up.

 

I want to set the example for my team.

 

I cannot be the first one out.

 

I cannot be the last one in.

 

And so everything that that entails.

 

But the truth is that when you get the call and people say, thank you for your service, but it's no longer needed, they, it's so swift.

 

It's so like, yeah, we're done here.

 

Thank you so much, right?

 

It's like, that's it.

 

It's like all the time, all those days, all those hours, all those moments.

 

They just, they don't really amount to anything on that side of the fence.

 

And it's very jarring because you say, we, I mean, this is a family, like this is time that was spent elsewhere.

 

And it's so like matter of fact, it's almost like today's Tuesday, you know, today's Tuesday and the sun is shining like that.

 

And so it makes you really realize that those considerations that we have are not necessarily used towards us the other way around.

 

Do you know what I mean?

 

It's like you have the, we have the considerations when we're working for corporate to say, oh, I want to save, I want to do this, I want to be responsible, like all these things.

 

But when it comes to the other side saying, yeah, thank you so much, no longer needed, we're done here.

 

It's so swift.

 

It's just, it's just a bit of a wake up call, I guess, to say, wow, what did, where did all that go towards?

 

What did that amount to at the end of the day?

 

Yeah.

 

And now changing gears just a little bit from that, from all the directions you could have gone to now, from all of the things you could have chosen to do after that.

 

Why did you choose this business model?

 

And why was this high ticket affiliate marketing space, this community, this vision, why did you choose that path for yourself?

 

Yeah, that's a very good question.

 

I would say the biggest one, there's many, but the biggest one I think was alignment.

 

I would break it down to three things.

 

For me, it was alignment, it was simplicity, and it was also scalability.

 

So when it comes to alignment, it was that the company that we now partner with is in the high-ticket space.

 

But first and foremost, it really aligns with the vision and with the values of where I want to go, where we want to go as a family.

 

So really being able, because I feel like marketing, at the end of the day, there's tons of companies out there, right?

 

But you really need to align with what the company stands for.

 

And now that I am starting my own business, I need to align, first of all, what are the values of True North?

 

Or, hey, what am I doing there?

 

How does this align to me?

 

And how does that align to my lifestyle, right?

 

So I would say that alignment is the number one thing.

 

And a lot of people probably jump into these things.

 

And what they see is probably the money, all right?

 

The reason why, maybe from a money perspective, you are also in high ticket, which a lot of people don't think about, is what can you actually do with that money to drive your business?

 

Because if you're in high ticket, you have money that you can then use to reinvest in your business when it comes to online marketing and all of that.

 

And a lot of people don't look at it this way.

 

They just say, oh, okay, you know, oh, yes, I want to do this for supplements, or I want to do something for my hair, or whatever, right, because.

 

But so that alignment, I would just leave it there, right?

 

And then simplicity of the business.

 

When I looked at it and took it apart, I was like, okay, what do I actually need to do, right?

 

And what's the investment?

 

What's the end-to-end process?

 

What's the distribution?

 

So I really took, let's say, the experience from my 20 years and really took the business apart and said, okay, how does this work?

 

Where's the company from?

 

What do they stand for?

 

What's the strategy?

 

What's the product?

 

What's the...

 

How much do I have to buy these products now?

 

Like all these things, right?

 

And how simple does the company make it for me to run my business?

 

Because at the end of it, it's my business and I'm using...

 

Using is maybe the wrong word, but I am partnering, maybe that's the right word, with the company to actually sell their products, right?

 

And the best part, I think, with what we do is that you become the biggest cheerleader for the products because you use them in your own life.

 

That for me was like, okay, amazing, right?

 

Because it's all about health, which is exactly...

 

Health is my probably biggest value, right?

 

So it's like, okay, awesome, great.

 

And then lastly, I would say, you know, scalability, right?

 

So the difference in corporate and here is that in corporate, you get a paycheck.

 

And the higher you go, yes, there might be bonuses and there might be, you know, equity and all these things.

 

Great.

 

But it's capped, right?

 

So for me, going into a business where I can really scale and have something that's uncapped.

 

And if I start to put on, you know, my sales serve coming from a service, you know, a point of view glasses, it's an uncapped opportunity.

 

It's just a matter of how much, how much do I want to sell, right?

 

Like, and that I never had previously, right?

 

Yeah.

 

So those are really the three things for me that really got this going.

 

And I mean, lastly, I think as well, just to round that off, I think you mentioned a little bit community.

 

I was always longing, like the higher you go on a corporate letter, the more of a lone wolf you become.

 

And especially for men, I think that's a real issue.

 

And you see that nowadays as well.

 

Mental health, especially for men and all of that, is just not talked about enough.

 

And I think you see it more and more now with like men's groups and all these kind of things, and especially now where we live as well.

 

You know, you see that more, but I think not enough.

 

And what I was also looking for was community, right?

 

Like-minded people that really want to co-create, that put health first.

 

And that's why I chose this model over any other model online.

 

And the true value as well is that you build a personal brand, right?

 

And the cool thing is that if you start to build a really powerful personal brand, you can take that anywhere.

 

That's yours.

 

No one's going to take that.

 

Correct.

 

Correct.

 

And I love that you answered it the way you answered it because it's so true.

 

And there was, I also asked a question on purpose that way, but because a lot of people feel, and that word high ticket affiliate marketing doesn't sit well with a lot of people, right?

 

And so it's like, oh, okay.

 

But this, what we have is so incredibly different.

 

And there's a reason why there's patents all over the place on the product, on the compensation plan, on the way it's a business model that we have not ever seen before.

 

It's just incredible.

 

And it exactly, it gives you that.

 

But other things, you're kind of blindly affiliating yourself with companies.

 

Yay.

 

Okay, good.

 

May also not be a long-term thing, but this is a true partnership for, like you said, you build your own thing.

 

You build your own empire, your own personal brand, and they are a partner of that.

 

And you can take that anywhere exactly.

 

Again, it gives you that true ownership, but with the leverage that has already been created for you.

 

And I think that is just the most powerful way to start a business.

 

And yeah, that community, I mean, the community is everything.

 

When we, and I know we almost came in there very at similar times, we had no idea what we actually what we got, what we got and had that vision.

 

But what we got was so much more.

 

And I think to add to that a little bit as well, right?

 

Like, my reality was the corporate world, right?

 

And if you look into affiliate marketing, or people call it an MLM and all these kind of things, right?

 

It has a bit of a, well, not a bit, bit, whatever you want to call it, there's some negative connotation or energy around it, right?

 

Now, one thing that people really need to understand, especially in the industry that I was in or anything to do with retail, 80% of companies out there actually do affiliate marketing.

 

Addy, Nike, all of them, they all do it, right?

 

And for that, it's okay.

 

But once it becomes affiliate marketing for companies that do this as a business model, it's frowned upon, right?

 

And frankly, that's a little bit where I was at.

 

So I also had to be curious and say, okay, what is this, right?

 

But anyone who's trying to look into this, what I would advise is be curious and look at the people that have the results in this world.

 

And you will be amazed what people have built in this industry.

 

And I think that is one of the things that people don't do.

 

They go online, they go on Google, anything you want to search in Google, Google is going to give it to you, right?

 

So do your research and actually check out the company that you want to affiliate with.

 

Yes, right?

 

But look at the people inside.

 

That's one of the things that I did.

 

I said, okay, who are these people?

 

What have they done?

 

Are they real?

 

Right?

 

And once you see that this is real, it really opens a Pandora box in a positive way, where the sky is the limit.

 

And you yourself are the biggest limitation of where you want to take it.

 

That's what I realized.

 

And what would you say is the biggest shift in your life since taking control of your income?

 

As you say, this is uncapped, so you're the one deciding, right?

 

What is my limit?

 

And also taking control of a business model that works this way and not, as you say, being a little bit of a slave or under the control of someone else's timetables.

 

And schedules and what not.

 

I think it really comes down to what we've already discussed.

 

It's about the ego that you need to drop.

 

And this is one of the reasons why I love this business so much, is because for me now, it really brings together the coaching aspect of things and the things that I'm getting into now.

 

At the end of the day, this is transformation.

 

And 80% of this work is your inner work.

 

And especially for men, that's an interesting one because men quite often don't want to go there.

 

And if you really start to understand that, and you really start to get very clear on you, and on the things that limit you from your past, the inner child, whatever it is.

 

Like if you don't go there, and a lot of people don't want to go there, yeah, then that's, I would say, that's really the biggest one.

 

Because the business itself is, if you start to understand it, it's pretty straightforward.

 

You just have to do the work and show up, and that's the hard part.

 

And a lot of people don't want to show up.

 

And that's why they need to do the other work and really drop that ego.

 

And especially for men and especially for high-achieving men in the corporate space, that's the big one.

 

That's the biggest one by far.

 

Amazing.

 

Yeah.

 

So powerful.

 

Oh, thank you so much.

 

I feel we can just delve into this so much more even.

 

But we really want to thank you for like shedding a little bit of light on that.

 

It's really nice to speak to you just to get that man's perspective, because it's so important just to open that to a lot of people, so a lot of women who are still in corporate life, but also especially the men who feel they're trapped, who feel that there is no choice.

 

But there is.

 

There really truly is.

 

And thank you for setting that example.

 

Thank you for being the inspiration out there.

 

It's just so much fun and such a pleasure to work with you, all of us, to work together, that we've established now this partnership that will take us beyond our friendship and over forever, right?

 

But it's a very powerful thing that we've gotten ourselves into.

 

And I couldn't be more happy to just share the space with the both of you.

 

And yeah, excited about what's ahead for sure.

 

Yes, likewise, likewise.

 

Thank you so much, Fabian, for chatting with us today.

 

As Desiree said, it's really a refreshing take on this business model, but from a little bit from a guy's perspective.

 

And sometimes it is a great invitation to other listeners or their partners who might be saying, like, okay, maybe it's not that I need a guy to mansplain it to me, but it's almost like there's a different language pattern that comes through when you share what has been your experience and your journey.

 

And I think that can resonate with a lot of partners and listeners who just want their spouses to take a look and a listen into what this is all about from your take.

 

So if you want to connect with Fabian, you can find him on Instagram at Fabian Ae.

 

That's an A and an E, just like that.

 

And we're going to be sharing links on our show notes to how you can continue to further this conversation with this amazing company that we're partnering with and to learn more about it.

 

So thank you so much for being here with us today.

 

And yeah, we can't wait to building this together and by your side.

 

So I feel very honored and very happy.

 

Yeah, thanks.

 

Thanks very much for having me.

 

I really love this conversation.

 

It's also just for me good to speak these links out, get these questions asked, right?

 

And maybe one last one from my end, right?

 

Like if people listen to this and they might be stuck or anything, you don't all I would say is you don't need to wait another five or 10 years or, you know, like the life that you want is not waiting for permission, right?

 

Like you just have to really make that choice.

 

True North, one of the slogans that I use is you have to choose boldly, right?

 

Like you have to start to be curious and just see, you know, it's just waiting for you on the other side, whatever that is that you want to explore, right?

 

So all I can say is, you know, don't wait, make that first step, lean in and yeah, reach out if you want to go deeper.

 

So thanks, ladies, for having me.

 

It was a pleasure.

 

And yeah, leave it at that.

 

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Guest Bio

Meet Fabian Ae—

Imagine working with a mentor who’s been through the grind of corporate success, pushing the limits in global sports for nearly 20 years, yet choosing to rewrite his entire story to live with purpose, adventure, and deep family connections. That’s Fabian Ae—a visionary coach dedicated to helping high-achieving men break free from the traditional definitions of success and chart their own exhilarating path.

Fabian’s mission is simple: empower men to rediscover their TRUE NORTH. As a Certified Identity Coach and Somatic Breathwork practitioner, he guides men to escape the grind, not by quitting their career, but by realigning with a life of purpose, freedom, and unshakable legacy. He doesn’t just talk about change—he lives it.

His own journey, from the relentless corporate world to moving his family to a new country in search of growth, balance, and adventure, has shaped his unique coaching style. And as a triathlon and ultra-running enthusiast, Fabian embodies the endurance and mental strength needed to overcome personal and professional barriers.

Whether it's reigniting your passion for life or navigating the complexities of family, career, and self-discovery, Fabian is the mentor who makes courageous choices feel not just possible—but inevitable.

If you want to connect with Fabian  you can find him on Instagram @fabianae, 

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/fabian.ae.73  , LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-maximilian-ae/

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