TRANSCRIPT

Cheers to 100 | Dreaming in Technicolor & Making It Happen

 

Iva 1:22

Hi, this is our 100th episode! Can’t believe it! Welcome everybody to the Mom Bosses Abroad Podcast. And we are live.

 

Desiree 1:32

We are live and we are on video. And we are together. And I think that is the most special thing about today that we actually have the opportunity to do this together. It's like it was meant to be, it was fun, but it was just perfect. timing was perfect

 

Iva 1:48

Always. Perfect timing is a thing. Yeah.

 

Desiree 1:55

I think that's why we've been doing this for so long because it's all just worked out so beautifully and seamlessly along the way.

 

Iva 2:03

Yeah, so for those tuning in and listening for the first time visiting, Desiree and I we don't leave in the same place, like in the same country. We have been actually doing this podcast now for three whole seasons and we’ve been on different places. I mean, not only that, we also didn't know each other in person. We didn't until very recently, actually until the beginning of this year. Yeah. So we've been doing this podcast remotely, virtually for almost three years.

 

Desiree 2:44

Yeah, the first time we met was January this year. Person in person and the bond just got even deeper and our I think yeah, our conversations got even more_There was more energy and soul to it, wasn't it? So we're really grateful to be here with all of you to celebrate episode 100. And just to talk about what's happened since we started this venture,

 

Iva 3:13

Yes. So a little walk down memory lane, right. Because, as we said before, we met, we actually were introduced by my husband. And that is a whole other story. But I should have him as a guest. But he really brought us together and from that first conversation that we had over the phone, we really hit it off. And we found so many synergies, so many points of commonality even though we're not you know, Desiree and I we have different personalities but we complement each other and I think that that's what it's all about. And I also consider Des today to be my business bestie because we do have other joint collaborations that we have going on as well. And we tick the same way when it comes to talking about business, when it comes to talking about this intersection of motherhood, of living abroad of being a boss as well. And one of the things that I have to say is that that energetic thing like you can really feel it. It doesn't necessarily have to be in person although that would be the ideal. But also even though it's been long distance, so to speak, it has been the driving force for this podcast to really have come all the way to this milestone. And our listeners, I believe, can also feel that _they can feel the chemistry they can feel the synergy, they can feel the camaraderie, the sisterhood. I don't know how else to say it, but it's just like you have to have someone in your corner. You really do, and that really makes all the difference when it comes to going after a project that you feel passionate about that. There wasn't a lot of expectations when it came to the podcast. 

 

Desiree 5:26

We also didn't think very long term. It was really like this is what we should do. Really, we I think we both we did voice messages because we were in different continents at that moment in time. Yeah. And we had conversations but in terms of voice messages, and I think some of these things we were nodding along “Yes. Oh my god. Yes, yes, yes.” And I think Iva was doing the same. So we said you know what? God our conversations are so good and valuable sometimes that we should press record on these conversations. Yes. And do a podcast. We don't even have the slightest idea of how to do this podcast is like, what do you do? I even said, how does it get on iTunes? Like I got it. I already had to figure it out.

 

Iva 6:13

Yeah. And that was that was a fun learning curve. That we had to start to contemplate things that I had no idea about, no idea like how much how much does an episode take up in terms of like storage space, right? 

 

Desiree 6:35

To compress it.

 

Iva 6:39

The whole audio engineering thing. What else? But I think the main thing for me, at least from that early on period is that you start off being very self-conscious about the way that you sound and your voice.

 

Desiree 6:55

I don't like my voice. 

 

Iva 6:59

I don't like my voice at all. And I think it is a real test to go over that hurdle. And listen to what you have said. And the way that you speak and the pauses that you make. I'm still quite annoyed by some of it.

 

Desiree 7:18

The power of editing though. So everything's done like doo doo doo doo doo doo you're editing a few things out, so we do everything ourselves on editing. A whole transcribing, everything ourselves. We'll talk about that a little later. But yeah, there's moments where like, Okay, do we edit it out? Or is it like actually authentic and we need to leave it in?

 

Iva 7:42

I think at the beginning we were a little bit more- we edited it a lot. And we went back but there was an episode that we did about Done Is Better Than Perfect. And I think that came to a point where we just had to make do with what it was and what it was, was good enough. So we had to just let it go. By listening to your own voice I think at the beginning it really does 

 

Desiree 8:15

I was in tears when I added the podcast and made it ready and  go and approve listen to it right and then we'll make adjustments if we need to. But then there's moments where I was like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's so good. It's like I said, that I really say that. These moments happen or like, Oh, that was pretty profound or someone like Oh, God, why did you say that? So there are some funny realisations

 

Iva 8:44

We don't really follow a script. We just have an idea. Like rough ideas and points of what we want to touch upon. Just to keep it concise. 

 

Desiree 8:57

Like to have a certain flow to make sure we don't forget things we really want to mention or point at or highlight. Yes, but then oftentimes that also happens if you have these points that are planned out. We really have a lot of thoughts and then we go on a different tangent, but that was also good. So okay, we'll leave those other points for next episode because that's also important because that's that's the nature of why we started this because our conversations take the certain direction, depending on you know, what we talk about, I think it would also be not authentic if we were like, okay, stop talking about that. Let's go back to you know, bullet points. So I think without ever talking about it so open. We're taking you guys behind the scenes. 

 

Iva 9:49

Yes, this is really what happens,

 

Desiree 9:53

But I think it's so great, or like sometimes I'm like, Iva, I can't find the snippet for the beginning. I can't like you know, you've listened to it so much and like, can't find the snippet. There's so many things. Can you please listen to a snippet minute to 39 to 342. That's your snippet. Yeah, okay. Thanks. Yeah, no, so it's just fantastic. We've each got our roles. It's very like also we never discussed what Iva does and what I do

 

Iva 10:25

Not formally, like we never sat down so you are in charge of the transcripts, you're in charge of this. 

And that's a little bit what we started off saying, like, We complement each other so well, that you're you have your strengths. I have my strengths and they play off each other so beautifully. That it's like we- like this is your area of expertise and this is my realm of expertise. And it just so happens that they blend.

 

Desiree 11:02

And I have to say that you know, we've mentioned a lot about the glass balls and the rubber balls there's moments and one of the three episodes I didn't even know when it happened. I'm like Iva help. Like, I can't and then she knows I don't even have to explain I don't have to go into like, I'm taking over let me know this and this and she took over that episode to you know, do all the things necessary because she knew I couldn't. And that's what I find so beautiful. I'm like, I don't have to find excuses. I don't have to stress about it. But I know we're there to cover each other's back. And I think one other really amazing thing is when I gave birth to my second one, my newborn, the whole thing you know, like sometimes we also can’t predict how it is all sudden having two kids right and I knew I had to scale back a little bit on my business and a little bit like, just you can't go full force like you did, but I did factor that in and Iva said “Look. Remember glass balls, rubber balls. You just decide if you do want to take a break for a bit you can. Let's take a break you get into with everything and then we can always regroup after and continue” and I was like “You know what? No, this is my happy place. This is actually what gives me energy, inspiration. I get energy through what we do. And the fact that we're doing it together, so don't take that away from me.” You know, I was like I need this. So I'm going to scale back on other things, but I need to continue this, I want to from the bottom of my heart so I think it's just been so beautiful and many aspects of our seasons. 

 

Iva 13:00

Yeah. And that's one of the cornerstones of the podcast before we got started, even though we didn't have a clear cut definition of who does what, when, how we did have a North Star and we did say is it’s going to be fun and is going to add in that space of something that you're lit up about something, that you're passionate about, that place because we are moms, we have a lot of things going on. Days can be very long, they can be very hectic, they can be very overwhelming, unpredictable, and so you don't want to go into the direction of another chore like something else on your to-do list and to go in that energy of saying “ufff” right because we know as we started off this conversation today, it's all this beautiful energy you can feel it and it also comes through into what you know someone like our listener will pick up on and then they will say “Oh my God, do they actually want to this?” Like you want to hear something that inspires you. You want to listen to something that you can learn something from or to get inspired or to or to you know, or just to be like, “oh my God I like the way that they express themselves. I like their chemistry. And so we always said it has to be fun like the moment that is no longer fun we have to unplug it and say the curtain has been drawn. 

 

Desiree 14:55

Yeah, it was fun while it lasted and that's about it but it hasn't.

I feel like we’re just getting started. And this is this is season four, Episode 100

 

Iva 15:04

Episode One Hundred. And we never thought about long term. We didn't we never said “oh my God when we reach the 100th episode…”

 

Desiree 15:11

We talked about seasons before because of summer holidays, kids all around. It can’t be sustained at the same time. You know, that's just cut and we'll do this break. 

 

Then we started coming back in like October. That's good. And then next year we did the same thing. I was like, okay, so we found our flow, but we didn't need to plan it. Because I think that just adds the stress and this expectation and this, like expectations come with disappointments too. And we never, I feel, we never had that because we didn't put any expectations. to anything. So it's it was really good. But also, about like I can't like accountability. I think if I would have started a podcast on my own. It's hard to keep it it's hard because I would have been I can't do this. But because we did it together. I was I felt like I'm responsible for someone else, like responsible for each other. And so it drives you to complete the things you need to complete. Like I edit my podcast while I'm cleaning the kitchen downstairs. So Iva is staying with me right now in Tokyo. This is where I edit my podcast. She helps me clean the kitchen at night. Thank you for that. But usually when she's not there, I'm doing it by myself. And I'm editing the podcast while I'm doing it because you know you multitasking got to be a little bit yes, use your time. efficiently but that is what happens. 

 

Iva 16:49

So shout out to Desi here for being the best host. I'm not here by myself. I'm here with my family. My kids. My husband, everybody has invaded her home so I know it’s crazy but going back a little bit to those lessons that you learned along the way. Like doing it together is definitely one of them. If you really want to start a project, I would say any other adventure like having or at least you don't have to do it with that person as partnering up in a formal way but that accountability factor really is a big one, at least. One of the things that I take from this whole journey and beautiful experience is having someone that has your back as well. Not to throw any shade on anything else because I do feel that I also have a great support system. And I have a great spouse, my husband really supports me 1,000% But sometimes there's just things that are just very intuitive. Like you know what I say a lot and the other person gets it. Or you didn't have to go in

 

Desiree 18:02

Llike my moment this morning, you’re like, “oh, like what's wrong?” And I was like, “Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.” I knew like I don't have to use many words. Yeah, Iva will understand me and it's that's something that spouses sometimes cannot catch on but later. It takes quite a few attempts until they finally get on that but definitely that accountability that having someone by your side, someone on your corner desk today has a lot of projects that she does as well on her own. And I feel so happy when I get to support them when I get to showcase her as well. And that's one of the reasons why we also did like a shifting gears. So the first season was us having one on one conversations, we explored topics that it was mostly in an intimate environment. Like just to moms talking about those early, early recordings that we write those early voice messages that we sent out they became the basis for that season one yes. Journey of episodes, but then we decided to also shine the light on other women as yes, we're also possibly living abroad or we're also being mom bosses themselves.

 

Iva 18:20

And this is the great thing about having your sisterhood around you. This is the great thing about doing it together you will always hear us say it_ it's sprinkled all throughout every single season like you have to do it yourself. But you don't have to do it alone. I said it so many times we forget. But that is that is what we wanted. We wanted to showcase other women as we had, I think a great roaster of experts. 

 

Desiree 20:21

Oh my gosh, amazing, beautiful women that will learn so much from so at this point as well like thank you to all these women that we have spoken to really be made amazing friendships and we've built relationships and we've gotten into business and collaborations with some and I just feel so blessed to have had this opportunity to talk to these experts in their own fields who will share with us their journey and their businesses and not all are being a mother sometimes abroad but sometimes also, you know, just working moms it's just a category of its own, 

 

Iva  21:01

It can be a silo like you can be on your own mompreneur cave, day in and day out. Not having that perspective of someone that has gone before you or that's a couple of steps. In front of you to give you that perspective. And I think we've got a lot of that all these beautiful guests that we had, to teach us lessons and takeaways from their own experiences and who can learn from and who always reminded us okay, this season is going to pass very quickly. It's never going to stay like this forever, and so forth. So we were quite, quite blessed with the people that we encountered and who came on the podcast. And that we got to learn from and share with joy, inspiration. Yeah, but I want to ask you Des, like what are some takeaways or lessons lesson you have that you have learned in all of this? This past three seasons?

 

Desiree 22:12

I think a big lesson I've learned is like we don't have to do it all alone. That we and we can be, we've done this uninterrupted seasons of our lives where we realized we can't necessarily do everything on our own. We still do a lot on our own, like edited we put it up there. But we have a beautiful VA So shout out to Dini here for such a beautiful support to what we do. And she helps us just with you know so many, like little things that we need to pull the whole big thing together. And that's been an amazing relief. Right? And a big support and the reason we are able to stay consistent, consistent with publishing but also consistent with our newsletters that go out every day, every time do it to have everything available on our website as well and people would like to follow the episodes with a transcript. Like putting all of that together. There's a lot of work involved, involved around a podcast and it is hard to keep up with everything on our own. So having that support, come in and help us that has been a lesson we've learned something we've embraced and something And for you what's yours?

 

Iva 23:48

So many lessons I keep learning over and over again. Because I forget and then I'm reminded over and over. Definitely having that support system having someone in your corner. I would also say that that whole part about the seasons. It's such a big one. And if not managed properly, we can make it like a full-on story of how things are. But it's more about taking a step back and just putting a little bit more perspective in things and realizing that we have to honor where we are Yeah. And yeah, it can be very overwhelming. You know and Des can tell you it has been sometimes there's moments where I'm just looking at her and we go together with the kids and my kids still have their moments of strong emotions and sometimes I'm about to walk away and be like I don't know you. I don't know who you are.

 

Desiree 25:05

Who are these children.

 

Iva 25:09

I know. But it's understanding that then 20 minutes later, everybody's happy or 20 minutes later you have like a beautiful moment that you're cherishing or that for me it has been like yeah, I'm not gonna have them tugging at my shirt for that much longer. I know. Because we started this podcast scene. You know, I'm a mom to two little ones. They're not so little anymore.

 

Desiree 25:45

I was a mom to one, now mom of two.

 

Iva 25:48

Yeah, I chose that growth and evolution happens as well. Where you need to adapt and change in the present moment and actually enjoy them and don't take it so, so hard and you know, sometimes again, and I love these moments sometimes when you know everyone's going like they're going crazy but they're having fun as well but we're looking at each other like oh my god you but it's at the same time.

 

Desiree 25:56

It's the OH MY GOD filled with pride as well. And because yeah, motherhood is a journey. It's just on so many levels. And I think I've we've gotten to know each other really well. Like, of course beginning of this year when you were here by yourself, but now also with the family. Oh, my God, what a mother like I respect her so much what she does- I learn every day I learned from her I'm also taking notes her because she's got hers are a little bit older as I'm like, This is what's happening soon. 

 

Iva 26:52

And that's what I mean, is like it's good to have someone. I mean, not necessarily I have to be that person. But to have someone that's a few steps ahead. Yes, in certain things because it's not all like a straight line. Yeah, it's not all happening in in a very clear-cut way. What we're referring to is that, you know, there are seasons within your business, there are seasons within your motherhood or seasons within the podcast itself. And sometimes they're not in sync all together. They're not going up, going forward, all at the same time. And that's where it can you know, it's like all these moving parts all these needs, that's one of the reasons why we created this. It was also because we want you to stop comparing your apple crumble to another mom’s tiramisu. It's a different recipe. It's different ingredients. It's different everything. So we have to stop that conditioning of comparing and measuring and saying am I to that level? 

 

Desiree 28:09

And look, Iva raises her kids a certain way, I raise my kids a certain way and sometimes it's different ways, we use different approaches. But then when you put the kids together, you're happy they're having so much fun. They love being together. My son asked how much longer are they there and and I tell him only you know, like three more days and he gets really sad. I don't want them leaving… 

 

Iva 28:34

No, no, we have to come back. 

 

Desiree 28:39

So it's these moments as well, you know, it's really nice to hear. 

 

Iva 28:52

I think another lesson that we learned in this podcast to season is the calculation of timezone.

So we are in Asia. We are in not in the same country but we are in the same region

 

Desiree 29:00

We already have one one hour difference

 

Iva 29:03

And it's always like is it your time? Is it my time? So we now have defaulted to like the standard time between the two of us which has held 

 

Desiree 29:14

Yes at the beginning it was that back and forth. So we both know already that the time we're talking about 

 

Iva 29:21

We guests are everywhere, right? coming from everywhere, from Australia. Europe, everywhere, other places. 

 

Desiree 29:34

The whole  world has been represented and so timescales can be so, so tricky, and we know there's a lot of tools and a lot of things and we use them, trust us. We use them but we also have gotten them wrong. 

 

Iva 29:47

Yeah, there's been panic phone calls. Like where are you? We're both in the recording. Yeah, what's it and I was still outside?

 

Desiree 29:56

Oh no, yes. Yeah, it's interesting. It's you know to promote that particular episode with that person and then the live as well as what's also that technology.

 

Iva 30:00

Oh my God if you have followed us you have seen all of our mistakes, mixups, accidents in real time like we have really we have really put ourselves out there. I remember we were doing a live one time we couldn't get the guest on it was windy and then the connection and then we were like okay, we'll try again. “Bye everyone” so you're ending the live that wasn't really alive because you were just trying to get everyone into the live. And then we did it like three times but those sorts of things where I feel that podcast makes you very humble because you have to leave the ego by the wayside and say, Okay, this is what it is. We don't know. Maybe it'll work, maybe today we have a glitch maybe you know we have something else.

 

Desiree  31:14

It never really stressed us. It's never really you know, I mean, stress has certain levels like aa little bit but not too not much it's just what it is.

 

Iva 31:26

But sometimes I feel that we do have this pride in what we do. And we have a pride in you know the sound quality. There was really an episode when they were drilling on a floor.

 

Desiree 31:46

Yeah. This season.

 

Iva 31:50

You will not notice because you won't hear any of this. Des did her magic on it. But it was 

 

Desiree 31:57

Audio engineering. I'm telling you.

 

Iva 32:00

Yeah, it was. It was. And it was like the only time that we could record and then we said should we re record like should we redo it right? We're not going to have people listening to the drilling in the background that is really distracting. But we have done such a great interaction of the topic and

 

Desiree 32:20

I to recreate it's gonna_ you get different direction. 

 

Iva 32:24

Yeah, you can't. But we’re students and always learning. And so we are sitting here I don't know how you feel about this, but we are sitting here and it's episode 100. And you say it so easily, like the 100th episode, but so many things. have happened. Right? It's like the 100th episode. I don't think we have registered it. Because we've been in this mayhem of like the day to day, lunch plans figured out and everybody you know, showered and out the door. But it's been 100 episodes and only when you have done it yourself can you appreciate. I mean, obviously, people that have teams, all the respect in the world. They do have them, they do use them but again, we just want to point out that this is really like your homemade apple pie all made in house. And we have reached this milestone. So looking towards the future like the next 100 episodes. 

 

Desiree 33:56

I don't know what it's gonna look like

 

Iva 33:57

We don't know. We don't know. But it will be fun. It will definitely have to be fun.

 

Desiree 34:06

It has to be fun, right? Yeah, it has to be- it still has to go like enough flow. Right? Like in a like yeah, and sometimes we got

 

Iva 34:19

Teary eyed here.

 

Desiree 34:20

But we both I think topics that are sometimes it's also I message her like late at night like episode topic. Let's talk about this. Because it's something that in the moment is very important to us. Something that triggers us or sometimes there's been moments where I was like, Iva, what, well how would you handle this situation? It's like wait that's a fantastic Yeah, and then let's stop because anyways, we're going to the recording studio tomorrow. But like we're going into a recording studio and let's discuss it then because that's what makes it authentic. And organic. Things like that like screen time or no screen time. You know, things like that. I asked her like I ask advice. There was another one we put down for season four now as a cool let's discuss that as an episode because it's interesting because we have different viewpoints we're seeking advice from each other. We're learning and often we don't know what an episode will look like at the end and I think that is the magic. Some are prepared. Some are really points we want to cut across and we have bullet points and we have things you want to mention and get out there. That's also important. Yes, but there's some more I think it's important, or it's magical to discuss them as we go along. Yeah, right.

 

Iva 35:54

Look, there's some ethos to this podcast. It's Mom Bosses Abroad. So there's an intersection of three things coming together. And when you are in that space, you want to identify with other people that are in that space as well. And so we have been very intentional of curating what we share with you that it always goes into either one of those three buckets so to speak, right? It provides value so that we can share something insightful, something that really has helped us so we have tried that, you know, if it worked for us, maybe for someone else that is going through that same or similar experience. And this is us building this community. This is us building the space where you will be either inspired, you will be uplifted or you will feel seen and heard at least or not thinking that it's only happening to you, but that there's other people that are going through similar experiences and situations. So we want to keep those conversations for sure going because we continue to be in this space. We continue to be in this intersection, but most importantly, the world that we're in right we have all collectively come from a global pandemic. There's still crazy things going on in the world. And what about just being a little light along the way? Having a space where somebody can just say what are the good news? What is something that I can take with me that is of value, that is positive that can help me move forward and not keep me into this pain point or oh my god, am I doing it wrong? Now I need to go and check twice. Not that I'm creating more chaos around me and so forth. But it also goes into that direction of okay, we started this podcast virtually. We started our friendship virtually we started our collaborations virtually and nothing beats face to face. Nothing beats in person. But the next best thing is to surround yourself with people that are going into the direction that you want to go. You are the average of the five people around you that you're hanging out with every day. So come and hang out with us for a little bit. You know, 30 minutes every week we have something special prepared for you something that we want you to you know, take away from your busy week. And that's why we're very mindful about the time of how long our episodes last because we're also busy. We see episodes the last two hours, that I need to schedule it I need to schedule then I need to make a special viewing.

 

Desiree 39:18

Yes we want something short, short episodes that are manageable you know that are manageable to listen to and little nuggets you can get out of your day or sometimes. Yeah, to just be entertained, I suppose but also to really just feel like you're talking to girlfriends you know or having a conversation. Look there's a lot of moms out there moms living abroad that maybe they feel lonely, you know they need this tribe. They're not necessarily working moms. That's already enough you’re a mom so you can talk to us. But there's moms living abroad who need that. There's also working moms, maybe they're not abroad, but they're working moms. So again, we have things that we can share, you know, the wisdoms we've gained along the way. Hey, we're still trying to work with like kids hanging off us our arms and our legs but like just wait a second or trying to navigate time management and this and this. How do we make it? How are we doing it all and managing we're also learning are we doing it all really you know, like we've taken a little bit behind the scenes. It's not all you know, I like we don't have this luxury of time all the time. Like I edit things in the kitchen. You know, we do podcast recordings, I have to wait till someone is watching the little one until we can do it as if it's all it doesn't just happen because we have time or all the help in the world. We don't. But if there's also one thing that matters to you, we'll find a way to make it happen.

 

Iva 40:54

And we want to continue bringing this message forward and that's the reason why we're doing it. So looking into the future for me in a nutshell.

 

Desiree 41:05

I haven't answered that question. 

 

Iva 41:09

The next 100 episodes? I didn't know who said that. I know it comes from somebody it didn't come from me. And I'm sorry, I cannot attribute it because I can't come up with the name but I know that someone said I don't know where I'm going but I promise you it won't be boring. And I think that's how we can see out the next 100 episodes. We don't know but join us come along for the ride.

 

Desiree 41:34

Exactly. Yeah. And we will be in your corner. 

 

Iva 41:40

Yeah. And this podcast wouldn't be wouldn't be here if it weren't for our beautiful community. Our listeners, our guests that come on board. The supportive love from everyone that downloads an episode, that takes the time to listen to it. That's how we have gotten organically to rank number 10 out of the best 70 Mompreneur podcast this year. So grateful.

 

Desiree 42:08

Wow. It's incredible. It's incredible. We were not expecting that. But we say Wow, it really gives us the fuel to keep going. And to put on quality content to give it our all, it comes from a labor of a really does. And so we just wanted to give you a heartfelt thank you. Shout out to our kids who make this material possible. 

 

Iva 42:52

A shout out to our beautiful guests and beautiful listeners. Everyone who's made this possible. We're so grateful. We didn't expect this. Again there was no expectations. We didn't know if we were going to reach this milestone and I think it is truly a special milestone. So thank you also to you. You are being my business bestie. Seriously. Thank you.

 

Desiree 43:27

Thank you as well. Shout out to our husbands who are

 

Iva 43:35

Taking the kids out right now so we can do this. They're on Daddy duty, allowing us to do this and he's going to share with all of you and to give you a little bit of a glimpse into what goes on to reach this milestone. So yes, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for supporting us. Thank you for all the love and we can't wait to see you in the next episodes. And the 200th milestone and beyond.

 

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